{"id":2854,"date":"2021-12-15T15:27:15","date_gmt":"2021-12-15T15:27:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/?p=2854"},"modified":"2021-12-16T08:31:26","modified_gmt":"2021-12-16T08:31:26","slug":"2854-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/fr\/2854-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Social Dimension of Sustainable Finance: learnings from the Microfinance industry and challenges to overcome &#8211; Interview with Jurgen Hammer (CEO of SPTF)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">It is commonly accepted that <\/span><\/strong><strong>Sustainable Finance<\/strong> <strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">covers<\/span><\/strong><strong> three dimensions: <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">E<\/span><\/strong><strong>nvironmental, <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">S<\/span><\/strong><strong>ocial and <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">G<\/span><\/strong><strong>overnance. The environmental side of<\/strong> <strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">finance (how environment impacts finance and how finance impacts the environment) <\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0has captured the attention over the last years<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">. <\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">This is not only <\/span><\/strong><strong>due to the <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">more and more obvious effects of <\/span><\/strong><strong>climate change <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">on our daily lives, but also, more prosaically, to <\/span><\/strong><strong>the <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">development of the EU taxonomy<\/span><\/strong> <strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">and<\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">related <\/span><\/strong><strong>regulatory requirements for the <\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">European<\/span><\/strong> <strong>financial sector.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">But what about the social dimension of Sustainable Finance? How come does this <\/span><\/strong><strong>social<\/strong> <strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">side of finance <\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">seem<\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">to be still<\/span><\/strong><s> <\/s><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">quite<\/span><\/strong><strong> unexplored<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">? Can this only be explained by the challenge <\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">to define and measure social KPIs? <\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">This would be forgetting that <\/span><\/strong><strong>the Inclusive and Microfinance <\/strong><strong>industr<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">y, <\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">which is greatly represented in Luxembourg, has a very solid track record of taking into account the social impact of finance<\/span><\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">. W<\/span><\/strong><strong>ith more than 3 decades of experienc<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">e<\/span><\/strong><strong>, <\/strong><strong>th<\/strong><strong><span lang=\"EN-US\">ese pioneers of socially responsible finance have been developing best practices that could be used by the mainstream financial sector.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>To offer you an insider\u2019s look into this captivating and soon to be regulated topic (see the current EU work on a social Taxonomy), we have spoken with Jurgen Hammer, CEO of the Social Performance Task Force (SPTF Europe), based in Luxembourg. Jurgen has more than 20 years of experience in the Microfinance industry. You will understand why SPTF was founded and how it helps measure social impact, what are his key learnings from the Microfinance industry and why the financial sector, as a whole, needs a social taxonomy. Enjoy the read!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2866\" style=\"width: 229px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2866\" class=\"wp-image-2866 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Jurgen-Hammer-1-e1639588181582-219x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"219\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Jurgen-Hammer-1-e1639588181582-219x300.jpg 219w, https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Jurgen-Hammer-1-e1639588181582-748x1024.jpg 748w, https:\/\/lsfi.lu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Jurgen-Hammer-1-e1639588181582.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 219px) 100vw, 219px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2866\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jurgen Hammer &#8211; Managing Director SPTF Europe<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #003366;\"><strong>As Managing Director of SPTF Europe, what can you tell us about the social performance standards developed by the SPTF? (What they are, why they were developed, their audience, and how they have evolved).<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span>At the beginning of the microfinance journey over 30 years ago, most discussions were around being financially viable. Afterwards, we started talking about the social pledge and how to demonstrate that our industry achieves the <strong>social promise<\/strong>. However, there wasn\u2019t any common guidance, and each player followed its own way of measuring social impact. To fill this gap, the Ford Foundation (USA based) agreed to fund an initiative to create a common language on social performance for the microfinance market. To do so, it was decided to start from the practitioner level: listen to the people and organisations on the ground, <strong>enabling them to create their own language<\/strong> based on their experiences, practices, and learnings. In 2005, SPTF (the Social Performance Task Force) was founded.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">SPTF is the global industry network that regroups all-inclusive and microfinance industry actors: financial services providers, national and regional networks, investors, asset managers and DFI\u2019s (Development Finance Institutions). At the regulatory level, SPTF works and coordinates with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afi-global.org\">AFI<\/a> (the Alliance for Financial Inclusion). We like saying that SPTF \u201cdresses the table\u201d for the actors to sit down together, creating a dialogue among them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">In 2012, the French NGO <a href=\"https:\/\/cerise-spm.org\/en\/about\/\">Cerise<\/a>, together with the <a href=\"https:\/\/sptf.info\/universal-standards-for-spm\/universal-standards\">SPTF\u2019s Universal Standards for Social Performance Management<\/a>, launched SPI4, an evaluation tool fully aligned to the Standards. For ten years, our sector has been working with these two tools; the standards, a manual of best practices to help financial service providers <strong>put clients at the centre<\/strong> of all strategic and operational decisions and align their policies and procedures with responsible business practices; and an Evaluation Tool to measure individual and relative performances of financial service providers on these Standards.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">To ensure the Standards remain relevant and adapt to new trends and developments, we review them every five years. In this respect, we have provided the industry with standards and ways to measure where it stands. Currently, there are approximately thousand organisations following these standards. It helps them assess and benchmark themselves to implement \u201csocial performance management\u201d (i.e., identify gaps to improve social performance, and gradually become more socially responsible)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">Inclusive finance\u00a0has been a\u00a0pioneer in developing and measuring\u00a0the social dimension\u00a0of finance. What are the key learnings, and how can these help the\u00a0mainstream\u00a0financial sector\u00a0tackle this new dimension?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>This is an important question. We are a sector that must be focused on <strong>efficiency<\/strong>, which we gained based on our <strong>experience<\/strong>. The inclusive finance sector is small, but it is a financial sector with over 20 years of experience. That\u2019s why I like to consider it like a laboratory where we tested out things for more than two decades. I would say we have two main learnings:<br \/>\nThe first one is that as long as there is no legal obligation, there is a need for a strong willingness to coordinate and develop a self-regulatory approach. That\u2019s what SPTF did: help creating this <strong>willingness<\/strong> and structure the <strong>cooperation<\/strong>. The second one is that our work on the social dimension, and now also on the environmental one, needs to be <strong>practitioner-driven<\/strong>. For example, whatever an organisation measures needs to provide added value, examples, and clear information about improving.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">What are your thoughts about the major inclusive finance industry\u2019s trends?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>One big challenge for microfinance is reaching further away populations, such as those living in the countryside and remote areas. The main trend I would like to mention potentially addresses this challenge. \u00a0I refer to <strong>digitalisation<\/strong>, which has seen a significant development due to COVID. This is a change, but we should not forget that digitalisation is still about providing a financial service to a customer. Therefore, while there are technical additionalities, we still need to build on what we have learned. In addition, the lack of digital and financial literacy remains an issue. This is also part of the client protection dimension of SPTF\u2019s Standards. To be a responsible organisation, you must have processes that ensure that the clients understand what you\u2019re selling.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The second trend is the mainstreaming <strong>social and environmental performance management<\/strong> across the entire financial sector and beyond. For me, this is a consequence of a sudden broad awareness about the severeness of the environmental crisis. Environmental and social reporting is becoming mandatory and applied to the whole financial sector. For the inclusive finance sector and the impact finance world in general, this can be an opportunity to promote and share our expertise with the broader financial and economic sectors. We don\u2019t need to start from scratch<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #003366;\"><strong>Moving to the EU level, the Platform on Sustainable Finance is currently working on a Social Taxonomy. Why <\/strong><strong>does the\u00a0financial\u00a0industry <\/strong><\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">need this social taxonomy?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>A famous sentence says, \u201cIf you cannot measure it, you cannot improve it.\u201d (By Peter Drucker, a management thinker of the 50\u2019s).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Over the last months and years, sustainable finance has been accelerating, and this is due to the obvious <strong>climate change crisis<\/strong>, which is more visible than the social issues. The EU commission has reacted by creating a <strong>green taxonomy<\/strong> because there is a need to define what we are all talking about, to have a common language. This is very similar to what happened in the microfinance industry 20 years ago. It is extremely relevant to work on the social dimension because we need to address issues like gender, governance, human rights, protection and value for workers and clients. I believe that it is very positive that this discussion is happening at the EU level, and we are, as a sector, trying to help develop this EU social taxonomy, building on our experience.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">For the Social Taxonomy to be a success, what should be its goals?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>It needs to be implementable and valuable on the ground and not just be a check box exercise. It needs to <strong>make sense<\/strong> for the users &#8211; and that\u2019s a difficult challenge. Regulatory entities sometimes find it challenging to find ways to listen to the practitioners on the ground. But today we all seem to agree on one thing: we need to <strong>avoid greenwashing or social washing<\/strong> in our economies. For this, we need practical and pragmatic regulation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">From your experience, what are the main challenges associated with the social dimension? What are the challenges associated with measuring it and tracking progress?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>The biggest challenge is that the social dimension is not as easily quantifiable as the environmental one. The environment dimension can look at KPIs such as emissions or toxic waste. In the social one, it is more complex to define quantifiable indicators. In the inclusive and microfinance industry, we focused on management practices, for example, knowing what a responsible treatment of staff includes: training, education, insurance etc. This is one of the challenges that the EU Commission faces: develop different and adapted formats to <strong>evaluate social and environmental dimensions<\/strong>. We also need to take into consideration the local environments, especially when we want to measure end-client level indicators in the developing economies of the South.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #003366;\">If you had to give some tips to financial players who want to embed social considerations into their investments, could you tell us one thing they should do and one they should not?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong>I would like to start with a general reflection. We have accepted that our companies have many staff working on financial reporting and financial accounts over the entire year. However, the social performance evaluation is sometimes done by one person and sometimes part-time. This needs to change. There need to be more human resources dedicated to this type of reporting. An organisation should also understand that social and environmental reporting teams do not take away profitability. On the contrary, <strong>it will make financial performances more stable and sustainable in the long run<\/strong>. \u00a0If you miss out on your organisation&rsquo;s social and environmental dimensions and your investments, financial stability will be a short run.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">In addition, we should also take this step by step and acknowledge that it is a <strong>learning process<\/strong> and that everyone\u2019s ultimate goal is a better economic system. On the positive side, we are starting to see this change. Thanks for instance to the new EC disclosure regulations, organisations are beginning to hire professionals to work in this field. I am confident that we will live in a <strong>different world<\/strong> in a few years.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is commonly accepted that Sustainable Finance covers three dimensions: Environmental, Social and Governance. 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